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http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ Sustainable living: making it happen en-US Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:52:18 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.3 q http://www.ata.org.au/forums/search.php http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2957#post-24667 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:14:45 +0000 Sunshine 24667@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>Have a look at all appliances here showing efficency comparisons.<br /> <a href="http://www.energyrating.gov.au/compare-products/" rel="nofollow">http://www.energyrating.gov.au/compare-products/</a><br /> I have recently seen advertising for solar airconditioners which claim to use 55% less power than normal splits. I don't know much about them though. </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/243#post-24666 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:09:09 +0000 Sunshine 24666@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>I have a freshwater pool, so no salt or chlorine, so pump time is dictated by the correct amount of filtration required, not by the saltwater chlorinator, so my pump (around 1000w)runs only 3.5 hours per day. I am on tariff 33 so it costs 12.43c/kWh or around $39/qtr.<br /> I also have solar heating for the pool, so the $42/qtr cost for the pool, not only includes filtering and sanitising, but also heating the pool.<br /> I have solar PV system paying 52c/kWh net feed-in tariff, so last year received $992 cheque as a credit, so I can't complain. </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2957#post-24665 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:08:31 +0000 Benny 24665@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>We have the Mitsubishi hyper inverter too. Only 500W consumption and COP &gt; 5. As Peter advised check out the energy rating site and as other blogs have shown, select a small unit for optimum COP. We also use our ceiling fan when AC is on and can run it at 27C and it still feels nice and cool. </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2942#post-24664 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:04:30 +0000 Benny 24664@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>Interesting and relevant reading ...<br /> <a href="http://beyondzeroemissions.org/media/newswire/merit-order-how-solar-fits-could-cut-energy-bills-all-120207" rel="nofollow">http://beyondzeroemissions.org/media/newswire/merit-order-how-solar-fits-could-cut-energy-bills-all-120207</a> </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2957#post-24663 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:36:21 +0000 PeterReefman 24663@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>We use a 2.5kW Mitsubishi MSZ-FB25VA. Works well. I should say we only use it for heating, as the climate here is cool enough and our house is efficient enough not to use cooling mode. <a href="http://www.mitsubishielectric.com.au/2319.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mitsubishielectric.com.au/2319.htm</a></p> <p>For more options check out <a href="http://www.energyrating.com.au/appsearch/air_srch.asp?type=Reverse+Cycle&#038;out=0203&#038;inst=all&#038;inst2=Single+Split+System&#038;model=&#038;pgsize=50&#038;brand=All&#038;B1=SEARCH&#038;Elec=&#038;CUses=&#038;HUses=&#038;Years=&#038;runout=&#038;sr=1&#038;sort=New+SRI+Cool+DESC%2CNew+SRI+Heat+DESC&#038;list=comp#RESULT" rel="nofollow">http://www.energyrating.com.au/appsearch/air_srch.asp?type=Reverse+Cycle&#038;out=0203&#038;inst=all&#038;inst2=Single+Split+System&#038;model=&#038;pgsize=50&#038;brand=All&#038;B1=SEARCH&#038;Elec=&#038;CUses=&#038;HUses=&#038;Years=&#038;runout=&#038;sr=1&#038;sort=New+SRI+Cool+DESC%2CNew+SRI+Heat+DESC&#038;list=comp#RESULT</a></p> <p>Cheers </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2951#post-24662 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:09:26 +0000 rlwalters 24662@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>Thanks Dymonite69. That sounds positive. I'll keep an eye on things for a while and do some comparisons on PV Output.</p> <p>Does anyone have any advice re the last part of my query:<br /> Is it appropriate to make a claim for the income that I have forgone (in relation to feed in tariff) due to the fault of the supplier? Do you know of anyone that has had success making such claims?</p> <p>I figure I have lost over $1000 in foregone revenue. </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2957#post-24661 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:17:11 +0000 sneddo 24661@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>We are off-grid with a 2kw solar and 500w (rarely!) wind system. We are in the Upper Hunter valley NSW where it gets fairly hot in summer. I'm looking at putting A/C in our bedroom which will only be run during the day when I'm asleep (when working nightshift). Can anyone point me to a super efficient A/C? </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2956#post-24660 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:00:42 +0000 johnirace 24660@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>Hope to see you guys at the Sustainable Living Festival and especially the Film Festival in Melbourne. I am waiting for "Home", heard much about Yann Arthus Betrand. This is a very important event and I hope it would raise more awareness to ATA in Australia.</p> <p>JOhn</p> <p>--------------------------------------------------------------<br /> "Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever."<br /> <a href="http://www.glassesoff.com/?page_id=1235">‫‪‫improve vision</a><br /> <a href="http://www.glassesoff.com/?page_id=1256">‫how to improve eyesight</a> </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/471#post-24659 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:51:12 +0000 TonyT 24659@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>Examples of calculations that can be used to estimate the amount of heat that is lost through single glazing, through "smart" glass and through double glazing are recorded at<br /> <a href="http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/999#post-12539" rel="nofollow">http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/999#post-12539</a><br /> and in several of the subsequent posts.</p> <p>If the cost of energy for heating is low, the high additional capital cost for "smart" glass or for double glazing (higher) will take many years to recoup.</p> <p>If electricity costing 24 cents per kilowatthour is used to power a reverse-cycle air-conditioner with a Coefficient of Performance (COP) of 3, then the cost for one kWhr of heat energy is 8 cents. </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2951#post-24658 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:53:31 +0000 dymonite69 24658@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>rlwalters <a href="http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2951#post-24653">said</a>:</cite><br /> Thanks everyone. To respond:<br /> On 5/2/12 which was a good sunny day, I recall the total generation was about 17kWh and the peak was about 2.4kW (so maybe still a bit under what I should expect). </p></blockquote> <p>A similar system with your aspect and location:</p> <p><a href="http://pvoutput.org/list.jsp?id=1040&#038;sid=811" rel="nofollow">http://pvoutput.org/list.jsp?id=1040&#038;sid=811</a></p> <p>Generated 6kWh/kW on the 5/2/12</p> <p>This would be 18 kWhr for a 3kW system so it seems your system is working OK now. </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2955#post-24656 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:57:33 +0000 ozzie.freddo 24656@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>I am getting the premium feed in tariff (well I hope so as I have never had a valid account since connection of my PV system in Aug last year) and am wanting to change service providers (to one who doesn't charge so excessively for peak usage).<br /> Will my eligibility for the premium feed in tariff transfer automatically or are there potential problems? </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2954#post-24655 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:26:30 +0000 Allen Chen 24655@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>Micoe Solar Energy CO.,LTD is the main solar thermal systems manufacturer in China since 1999. </p> <p>Products : Flate plate and Vaccum tube solar water heater,Solar heat pipe and U pipe collector and we supplying OEM.solar heating systems for families,factories,swimming pools and industries around the world.<br /> Manufacture bases : Lianyungang dongxin base,Lianyungang ninghai base,Luoyang base,Yanzhou base.<br /> Certificates : SABS,Solarkeymark,standards mark,CE,SRCC,,etc.<br /> Number of employees : 7,000 staffs and nearly 500 engineers<br /> Annual export turnover : USD 30,000,000<br /> Service : Training and technology support<br /> Warranty : 3 years and 15 year life expectancy<br /> Delivery time : 3 weeks</p> <p>Looking forward to hearing from you at your convenience.<br /> <a href="mailto:allen@micoe.com">allen@micoe.com</a> </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/997/page/2#post-24654 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:27:16 +0000 rockabye 24654@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>Bike Theft - The Movie,</p> <p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/bike-blog/2012/feb/06/protect-bikes-theft" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/bike-blog/2012/feb/06/protect-bikes-theft</a></p> <p>And a USA version</p> <p><a href="http://www.snotr.com/video/8748/LIFECYCLE__365_days_in_the_life_of_a_bike_in_NYC" rel="nofollow">http://www.snotr.com/video/8748/LIFECYCLE__365_days_in_the_life_of_a_bike_in_NYC</a> </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2951#post-24653 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:33:51 +0000 rlwalters 24653@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>Thanks everyone. To respond:<br /> On 5/2/12 which was a good sunny day, I recall the total generation was about 17kWh and the peak was about 2.4kW (so maybe still a bit under what I should expect). Unfortunately I can't download from my inverter as its a pretty basic Aerosharp model. I might do some manual daily logging into PV Output as suggested for a comparison. Looking at Whirlpool, Aerosharp is a problem even though the manual I have says there is both RS485 and RF links available.</p> <p>My system faces slightly north of north east, is tilted at about 30 degrees and has no shade, so it should function very effectively. I cleaned the panels before Christmas.</p> <p>I eargerly await your further advice. </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/243#post-24652 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:26:02 +0000 Fred 24652@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>The solar pool pump will, for the most part, be running whenever the sun is shining. You leave your existing pump in place and hook in the solar pump to your existing pipes. You then run the ordinary pump if needed.But if your existing pool pump costs only $168.00 a year to run why bother, most people's pool pump cost around $600-$1,000 per year to run, in this case the $4,000 cost is saving them around $600-$1,000 per year.</p> <p>On the other hand your water heating costs were high at $400 per year, ours are about $240 per year.</p> <p>You must have a very small pump running for very few hours to cost only $168.00 per year. For example a 1000w pump will cost around 24c per hour to run, running say 8 hours per day = 1.92per day or $700 per year. But there is more to it than that.In Qld for example, one can get 52c per Kw feed-in tariff,so if one has a Solar PV system and is using the solar-generated power to run the pool, you are using power that could bring in income of 52c to run the pool pump which could be run by a separate solar system for nix </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2951#post-24651 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:25:03 +0000 photonthief 24651@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>Yes, a 3kW system in Sydney should give an annual average of around 12kWh/day, or a bit better if everything is optimum. However knowing the annual average does not help you much, as you can't affod to wait for a whole year to find out if the system is OK!! Daily output varies by about 2:1 for summer compared to winter, and also day-to-day.</p> <p>I agree with Lance that on a CLOUDLESS sunny day in summer (ie, now) your inverter should be generating a peak AC power of around 2.5kW to 2.9kW at around midday. If so, then your basic system, panels, wiring and inverter are almost certainly OK. Under these conditions, what peak power are you observing?</p> <p>On a cloudless sunny day in summer, you should generate around 17 kWh or even a bit more, but there are many factors which may result in less, which may not be due to a system fault as such. For example, do your panels face north? What is the pitch angle of your roof? Have your panels recently been cleaned? Lastly, and very importantly, to what extent are your panels shaded? More precisely, between what times of day are the panels COMPLETELY free of shade? Note that even partial shading will greatly and disproportionately reduce overall output.</p> <p>Get back to us with answers to all those questions, and it probably be clear as whether you system is performing as it should. </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/243#post-24650 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:00:27 +0000 Sunshine 24650@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>Please explain how the pool gets filtered when the sun isn't shining?</p> <p>Also, please explain how a solar panels and a DC pool pump for $4000 is heaps better value than a solar HWS?<br /> I paid $4600 for my solar HWS, and it saves me around $400 a year, but my pool pump only costs me around $168 per year to run...<br /> It appears a solar HWS gives twice the return in my instance... </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2295#post-24649 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:14:23 +0000 leafy 24649@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>Hi All,</p> <p>At last I've found out what that constant noise was from the Phillips MR16. For me its become too loud and I am going to replace them. Any recommendations for replacing them with ones that don't have a fan?</p> <p>Thanks </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2951#post-24648 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:33:45 +0000 Bushwalker 24648@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>rlwalters <a href="http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2951#post-24640">said</a>:</cite></p> <p>What I would like advice on is:<br /> What is the best way to verify the energy output of my system and whether it is producing what I should expect?<br /> Would it be a good idea to get someone to independently check the system out? Who and how much might that cost?<br /> What course of action should I take to resolve the issue if the system is still not performing up to scratch?<br /> Is it appropriate to make a claim for the income that I have forgone (in relation to feed in tariff) due to the fault of the supplier? Do you know of anyone that has had success making such claims?</p> <p>Hope someone can help,</p> <p>Rick </p></blockquote> <p>I would suggest hooking your system up to pvoutput.org, or at least manually entering your daily outputs there. This way you would then be able to compare your system with other similar systems in the same region.</p> <p>Depending on the make and model of your inverter, it may be possible to automate the logging of your system to pvoutput.</p> <p>There is a thread on whirlpool forums devoted to pvoutput and which will supply help if you have difficulties. <a href="http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1824518" rel="nofollow">http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1824518</a></p> <p>Cheers,</p> <p>BW </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2953#post-24647 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:02:37 +0000 Bushwalker 24647@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>mykoolthevegan <a href="http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2953#post-24646">said</a>:</cite><br /> Hi guys,</p> <p>I have 3kW system with REC panels and an Effekta 3kW inverter. I want to be able to see more information on my power production, is there some way I can hook a computer or meter into my inverter to track what is happening through the day?</p> <p>Michael </p></blockquote> <p><a href="http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/solar_software" rel="nofollow">http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/solar_software</a></p> <p>Have you looked at <a href="http://effekta.com.au/" rel="nofollow">http://effekta.com.au/</a> Section 'Downloads' and tried the "Solar Monitor Software"? </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2953#post-24646 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:36:15 +0000 mykoolthevegan 24646@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>Hi guys,</p> <p>I have 3kW system with REC panels and an Effekta 3kW inverter. I want to be able to see more information on my power production, is there some way I can hook a computer or meter into my inverter to track what is happening through the day?</p> <p>Michael </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2952#post-24645 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 15:30:37 +0000 Rob Wilson 24645@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>It has been requested that I do an energy assessment on a large mixed business. To do a proper analysis of the I need to an itemised assessment of each appliance.<br /> There is a lot of material out there on domestic refrigeration but not on commercial.Can anyone advise me on the efficiency of commercial refrigeration, or give me a clue of where to look. </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/899/page/7#post-24644 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 15:25:18 +0000 dreamer 24644@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>take a look at this:</p> <p>Now it seems that it is ok to actually break in to someone's house, while they are out, to install a smart meter!!</p> <p><a href="http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/opinion/rex-jory-privacy-trampled-yet-no-one-cares/story-e6freagu-1226263131150" rel="nofollow">http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/opinion/rex-jory-privacy-trampled-yet-no-one-cares/story-e6freagu-1226263131150</a> </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2951#post-24642 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 14:19:35 +0000 Lance 24642@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>I would expect an average of around 12kWh a day in Sydney, maybe a bit more, but it depends on panel quality, inverter efficiency etc. If you are getting a peak output of 2.5kW or more on a sunny, cloud-free day, then it is performing correctly I would expect. </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2951#post-24641 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 14:18:21 +0000 IAEA 24641@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>rlwalters <a href="http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2951#post-24640">states</a>:</cite><br /> ...... which is well under what I should expect (I believe to be more like 12kWhr/day).</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.yourhome.gov.au/technical/fs67.html#siting" rel="nofollow">http://www.yourhome.gov.au/technical/fs67.html#siting</a></p> <p>This should give you a basis to start from.</p> <p>IAEA </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2951#post-24640 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 14:05:47 +0000 rlwalters 24640@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>I had a 3kW solar PV system installed on my roof in Sydney more than a year ago. Without going through all the details, the company that supplied it (Nu Energy) did an audit some months after installation and found some kind of mistake in wiring. The technician said that the voltage was reading about half what it should be. For the first year of operation my energy output only averaged about 7.1kWhrs/day which is well under what I should expect (I believe to be more like 12 kWhr/day).</p> <p>After numerous phone calls and a number of months later, I finally got them to come and fix the problem. Since then the energy output seems to have improved but I need to monitor for a longer period to see. Apart from looking at the readout on the inverter, my main means of monitoring output is via my bills which come quarterly.</p> <p>What I would like advice on is:<br /> What is the best way to verify the energy output of my system and whether it is producing what I should expect?<br /> Would it be a good idea to get someone to independently check the system out? Who and how much might that cost?<br /> What course of action should I take to resolve the issue if the system is still not performing up to scratch?<br /> Is it appropriate to make a claim for the income that I have forgone (in relation to feed in tariff) due to the fault of the supplier? Do you know of anyone that has had success making such claims?</p> <p>Hope someone can help,</p> <p>Rick </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/243#post-24639 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 13:52:46 +0000 Fred 24639@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>There are a couple of companies that supply soalr panels and a Dc pump which will run your pool pump whenever the sun is shining ...and for free....cost around $4,000. heaps better value than a solar HWS </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/471#post-24638 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:11:25 +0000 cava 24638@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>tom <a href="http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/471#post-24637">said</a>:</cite><br /> Hi cava,</p> <p>How many windows and do you know the total m2 of glazing?</p> <p>We're about 6 months away from needing quotes, but these figures scare me. Unless of course the house is a lot bigger than ours. </p></blockquote> <p>To be honest I do not have the total window area, however the house is, from memory, 53 imperial sqs + garage + decks etc. 3 mtr high ceilings. As we are on acreage, most rooms have a nice view, hence the number/size of windows. If you live in Victoria, I can possibly steer you towards who I think are the better manufacturers. Just PM me as required. </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/471#post-24637 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:46:29 +0000 tom 24637@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>Hi cava,</p> <p>How many windows and do you know the total m2 of glazing?</p> <p>We're about 6 months away from needing quotes, but these figures scare me. Unless of course the house is a lot bigger than ours. </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2950#post-24636 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:11:51 +0000 LeeBee 24636@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>Can anybody PM with details of companies in Tassie, I,m a POM looking to emigrate and are looking for good(specialist) firms to apply to. I run my own company in UK and are a bit of a self confessed renewable freak!! </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/471#post-24635 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 00:46:29 +0000 cava 24635@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>Just going through the process of obtaining quotations for double glazing at the moment for our new house. The most expensive so far was circa $230,000 and the cheapest was circa $65,000, which is an enormous difference for effectively the same items. Like all things in life, you get what you pay for. </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/471#post-24634 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 22:50:22 +0000 dymonite69 24634@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>I think Miglas composite frames are fairly expensive. Alternative install your own wooden reveals to cover the aluminium frames yourself. </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/471#post-24633 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 22:07:48 +0000 simplelife 24633@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>Annette started this post with some REALLY scary quotes.. I am hoping that the prices for double glazed window products have come down in the 2 years since this thread began!<br /> We have an old 1955 weatherboard that needs recladding, so we thought we would take the opportunity to also stuff the walls with insulation and replace the windows, most of which don't open any more. So we are now thinking about the window replacement, all of which are on the south side so would benefit from being thermally broken, maintenance free and also glazed to prevent heat loss.<br /> We figured we should get a quote from MIGLAS as they have a window that is timber on the inside and aluminium on the outside.<br /> Does any one have any experience/suggestions in doing something similar? Thanks </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2942#post-24632 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:07:51 +0000 dymonite69 24632@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>From a report from the Electrical Trades Union</p> <p><a href="http://www.etu.asn.au/files/pdfs/Feed-in_tariff_report-Feb_2010.pdf/at_download/file" rel="nofollow">http://www.etu.asn.au/files/pdfs/Feed-in_tariff_report-Feb_2010.pdf/at_download/file</a><br /> "an average increase in cost per household of $2 - $6 in 2010, peaking at $11 - $33 per household in 2019 and declining thereafter"</p> <p>"In percentage terms, the cost increase per household is 0.6% - 1.8% in 2010"</p> <p>From Essential Services Organisation of SA</p> <p><a href="http://www.escosa.sa.gov.au/library/120125-SolarFeedinTariffPremium-FinalDecision.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.escosa.sa.gov.au/library/120125-SolarFeedinTariffPremium-FinalDecision.pdf</a></p> <p>"The current distributor funded FiT scheme provides generous subsidies to existing<br /> customers with solar PV, particularly those who are eligible for the 44c/kWh amount.<br /> While the Commission supports the decision to phase out the distributor funded scheme<br /> for new customers, it notes that the scheme may cost all South Australian energy<br /> customers around $90m per annum, which adds around $65 to the average annual<br /> household energy bill." </p> http://www.ata.org.au/forums/topic/2942#post-24631 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 17:06:47 +0000 dlvb19 24631@http://www.ata.org.au/forums/ <p>Projects</p> <p>From within the hazy fog that is my memory I recall a study (commission, royal commission?) completed about 6-9months ago into the "recent" price rises in electricity within Victoria.<br /> The report/study concluded that about 70% of the recent increases were attributable for infrastructure upgrades/renewals. Upgrades to support increase in peak current capacity which is needed mainly during hot summer days when everybody turns their aircon on. Replacement of old lines/poles .etc as apparently large sections of the electrical grid were built many decades ago and are now coming to the end of their service life.<br /> Renewables were reported to be responsible for only about 30% of the recent price increases. I imagine a significant proportion of this is being funnelled into the premium FIT's which are much too generous. A more reasonable FIT of ~25c or parity with the electrical retailers will cost your fellow taxpayer much less although money is still given to subsidise the initial cost of the panels which will cost taxpayers quite a bit.</p> <p>If anybody knows which report I speak of please post a link.I'm pretty sure I learned f it watching Q&amp;A or insight (long live ABC).</p> <p>Anyway Projects maybe if your neighbour decides to quote anymore ACA like gospel you should ask him if he has an Air Conditioner? </p>